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ON MUMBAI - WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR

 

In 2001 the USA had the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center.  It has become vogue to call it the 9/11 Tragedy, as if it was a hurricane or an earthquake, but it was not.  It was an act done by men, evil men.  A few years later, both Spain and England faced similar events.  And now India.  I am not so schooled in geo-politics to try to draw strategic significance here.  All I can do is to draw operational similarities in the hope of understanding my enemy better and thus be able to defeat him.  Similarly, to be able to teach my students to defeat him.
 
Here is what we know thus far -
 
1).  The attackers were organized into buddy pairs, allowing one to shoot while the other moved, and so forth.  The buddy pair, or "Two Man Team" is a development of small unit tactics very prevalent in SWAT operations. For urban close quarters battle, where areas tend to be compartmentalized, it makes sense for each room to be "taken" by two men.  It is not hard to develop the skills of a two man team.  For example, we teach a team tactics course and after two days of instruction, attendees are quite well skilled in working through any problem as a well oiled team.   It is obvious that these terrorists had a good amount of exposure to this material.    

2).  While we don't know everything yet, it appears the two man teams operated autonomously in Mumbai.  That means that while they had an overall objective, how they achieved that was up to the individual team itself. Now we see the autonomous two-man team, well drilled, practiced, each with its own set of objectives, and apparently in contact with one another. If you think about it, this was a bigger, better planned Columbine with multiple and much better prepared shooters.

3).  Until the "elite operators" showed up later, it doesn't appear that the "armed police" did much to stop them at all. I have never been to India, but if the training and pay of their local police is anything like what I have seen in the many Third World nations I have visited, I don't expect the terrorists would have met much resistance from anyone in authority.  After all - if they give you an old Enfield with no ammo and $150 per month to live on, do you really want to jump into the lion's mouth?  
 
4).  India is a very restrictive place as far as civilian ownership of weapons, and the likelihood of anyone present being armed was slim.  Regardless, I think this is once
again indicative of how an armed civilian may have been able to stop at least one of the two man elements.  Those who wish to argue the point will be referred to the British reporter who commented that if he'd had a gun he would have killed both of the terrorists he saw (because no one else was even trying to do so!)

 5).  There is evidence that many of the victims were tortured and executed.  I will let that one soak in good. 

6).  Here in CONUS, or anywhere else in the world, if you rely on the authorities for your protection and safety you are a fool.  They cannot protect you.  True, that sometimes you cannot protect yourself either, but the point is that to surrender your right (or tools) to self-defense because someone else is telling you they will protect you is stupid. We keep seeing the results of that mentality. Only you can protect you. 
 
7).  There is evidence that the terrorists were "strong and well toned", and that they were using steroids and other drugs to fight better. Now we aren't going to suggest that doping up is a good thing for those who would fight against those guys, but it does show that your adversary will not be the push-over some think he will be.  Look at the photo above.  You see a fit young man with what looks like a Romanian AK.  He has two magazines taped together just like the Russian Spetznas do, and his trigger finger is off the trigger.  These guys were serious, dedicated, and did their homework.

I am certain we will be hearing more and more about the Mumbai event in the coming months.  We have been discussing this at length in the Fighting Terrorism Section of warrior talk.  As more info becomes available, we will pass it on to you.
 

Gabe Suarez

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.  

 
 
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PREPARING FOR MUMBAI - IN AMERICA
 
There has been a great deal of discussion about what to carry for an event like Mumbai.  Gents, let's think about this. If you happen to be caught up in this at its conclusion, facing a dozen riflemen working together as a unit, and you with your Kel-Tec, what do you think your realistic chances of success are? Being real is not being defeatist, but come on.
 
Now, at the outset of the event, where there may be only one or two adversaries, it gets a little better in terms of odds.  But only a little.  You have one advantage and that is the advantage of surprise and one target.  They, on the other hand have many avenues of danger to cover, only one which is yours. This will be a rapidly moving fluid situation. 
 
One man was saying that using a cell phone to photograph the bad guys would be good.  Pictures of the bad guys on your cell phone?  Come on....seriously?  If you have the ability to take their picture, you also have the ability to take their life, or GTFOT (get the f*** out of there) so get out of the evidence collecting mindset.
 
Number two, some guys were discussing carrying a special bag with them with all manner of weapons and gear to facilitate such a fight.  Keeping a Bug Out Bag in the office or in the car is a wise move, but I doubt many of us are going to walk around fully kitted out all the time, so I think this will be limited to what you have on your person. Know what....you'll carry your tango bag everywhere until you get sick of it and leave it in the car one day and then, that will be the day and you will fight with what you have on your person anyway.
 
Those of you with little bitty guns (snubbies and Glock 27s and such), I suggest you rethink your weapon choices.  I can run a mini-Glock pretty good, but not as good as a full sized gun.  What do I carry?  A Glock 22 when at home and a Glock 17 when away. 15 rounds or 17 rounds respectively.
 
Yes, the bigger gun is harder to hide.  Yes, I have to choose my clothing more carefully.  Yes, its heavier.  All of those things they tell you are true.  But when you NEED THE MOTHER F'ING GUN NOW, those uber-comfortable pocket chain guns so popular with the CCW crowd will never allow you to fight as well as a full-sized gun.
 
Calibers - Please!  I will take a 40 or a 9mm over a 45 any day of the week for the simple fact of the matter that I can fight much longer with one than I can with a seven or eight shot weapon.  It may have been a caliber edge in 1976 when the only thing going was marginal hollow point ammo, but not today bwana.  Ask any of those metro-sexual gun instructors if they want to get shot in the face with my "45 set on stun".
Magazine capacity is not an asset, it is a blessing.
 
Engagement Dynamics - Short range, run and gun, point shooting is an essential skill and must be prioritized for the urban ambush gunfight.  However, for anti-terrorist activity, if you find yourself just outside or arm's length with a doped up, combat-trained AK-armed tango, you have already stepped into it.  You can still fight, but wouldn't it be far better to be able to ice these monkeys from 25, 50 or even 100 yards? 
 
Read the reports boys.  There are folks who had an eye on the action from a distance.  "If only I had a gun" was one of the Brit reporters said. The ability to hit out at these distances is not hard at all.  But it must be learned and trained.  And, your gear must support your ability to do it. 
 
Those uber-court-proof heavy triggers promoted as essential by the lawyer-instructors are trash. Get rid of them.  You don't need a hair trigger on your pistol, but you do need a manageable trigger.  My Glocks for example all use the standard 5# connector set up and give me a crisp release that is conducive to accuracy.  You don't need the 3# target connector, but good heavens don't add one of the abominable New York triggers.
 
Those big fat close range sights?  If you can hit at 100 yards with them, drive on.  I cannot, so I use sharply defined black iron sights like the Heines, and the Trijicons.  Those of you with eye issues that can't use the irons well enough, invest in one of the Docter red dot sights.  Yep....a red dot sight on your pistol.  It is small enough to carry around and bright enough that even Mr. Magoo can hit at 100 meters with it.
 
Another thing - Usually after one of those events I will hear "By golly if I had been there I would have pulled out my custom model 29 and..." That is usually spoken by a guy who hasn't done any physical training since high school, would have a heart attack if he had to run ten feet to cover, and is so out of condition he could not fight his way out of a Sierra Club Tea Party In San Francisco.  I'm not trying to offend anyone here but its not just about marksmanship and your ammo choices.  If you are already a good shot, you need to get away from the range and into the gym or the street and train your out of shape shooter's body so you will be able to fight not just shoot.
 
And finally, without which all else is wasted, develop the will to kill.  It is hard for some to sneak up on a man and shoot him in the back of the head unannounced, regardless of what the man has done, or is about to do.  You need to get over that if you want to be a player at this level.  it is not about capturing, or about bringing to justice, or about "stopping the action".  it is about getting the drop on a terrorist from a distance, unseen and undetected, putting your sights on his ear, controlling your heartbeat, and then pressing that trigger without a moment's hesitation.
 
Gabe Suarez

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.  
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